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		<title>Where We Are</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi all, Progress! but we&#8217;re not there yet. No word from Granite, but Wes (Granite employee and skid steer volunteer) says: &#8220;Yes maybe go up there today, I know they had a motorgrader go down and had to get a new one but just got it yesterday.&#8221;  So I&#8217;ll go by today and talk to Granite about the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<div class="gmail_default">Hi all,</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Progress! but we&#8217;re not there yet.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">No word from Granite, but Wes (Granite employee and skid steer volunteer) says: &#8220;Yes maybe go up there today, I know they had a motorgrader go down and had to get a new one but just got it yesterday.&#8221; </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">So I&#8217;ll go by today and talk to Granite about the grading. </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">After all is said and done (so far), we still have about $1,500 in the bank. Here&#8217;s a little more of my texts with Wes this morning:</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">//////////////////////</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Dan F Kuehn:<br />It looks like we have enough left in the bank for 4 or 5 more loads from MTC. Should we go for it? If so, where to put them?<br /><br />Wes Chapman:<br />Honestly I say hold on to it for now, let’s get the blade on it, roll it then get through the winter. Hopefully come spring we will have enough donated to get another 15-20 loads to really build the road up<br />I think just putting a few loads now won’t do much help<br /><br />Dan F Kuehn:<br />Ok<br /><br />Wes Chapman:<br />That’s just my opinion<br /><br />Dan F Kuehn:<br />Sounds good to me. Have you talked to Branden since the weekend?<br /><br />Wes Chapman:<br />Yes but we had the blade go down mechanically so that’s why they haven’t sent it yet but you might stop by and remind them<br /><br />Dan F Kuehn:<br />Will do</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">/////////////////</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">SO &#8211; After the grading, we&#8217;ll rent a roller to pack it all down to force the smaller rocks into the road.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">If you&#8217;re feeling able-bodied enough, after the blade there may be a few larger rocks remaining in the road. Feel free to toss them to the side. When all is done and done, it&#8217;ll be interesting to come out with a shovel and hoe in the next rain to see what the water wants to do. </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">We&#8217;ve done all this without forming an HOA (evil?), but we have done something together. Just for fun, and to pat ourselves on our backs, here&#8217;s a list of the individual donations:</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">$50<br />$200<br />$100<br />$50<br />$100<br />$500<br />$220<br />$200<br />$200<br />$500<br />$250<br />$500<br />$500<br />$500<br />$100<br />$100<br />$500<br />$200<br />$300<br />$300<br />$100<br />$200<br />$100<br />$100</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I&#8217;m heading over to Granite to see what&#8217;s up this morning.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I&#8217;ll post a bunch of photos of the work, before, during, and after, to the website, <a href="https://pinabete.us/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://pinabete.us&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1761923379383000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1uKrR3dCj3a61EvsEcMGmi">pinabete.us</a> .</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Also &#8211; Sounds like the newspaper is interested in our story&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">As always,</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Dan</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div>								</div>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2025 13:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi all, We&#8217;re in the middle of it now. Feel the patience and gratitude washing over you&#8230; Here&#8217;s the thing about the skid steer I didn&#8217;t understand. I thought that by renting the skid steer on Saturday for 8 hours that we&#8217;d get a bonus day, but that ain&#8217;t how it works. You rent it for an 8-hour day. There&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<div class="gmail_default">Hi all,</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">We&#8217;re in the middle of it now. Feel the patience and gratitude washing over you&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Here&#8217;s the thing about the skid steer I didn&#8217;t understand. I thought that by renting the skid steer on Saturday for 8 hours that we&#8217;d get a bonus day, but that ain&#8217;t how it works.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">You rent it for an 8-hour day. <u>There&#8217;s a timer&#8230; </u>Wes gave us 8 good hours today and he&#8217;ll need a second 8 hours on Sunday. That&#8217;s another $350&#8230; We need more money for that&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Any extra will go to touchups, and the various spectacular quagmires above the ditch, but for the moment we&#8217;re focused on the bottom half-mile that we all drive.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Just so you know, the skid steer isn&#8217;t the last step. We still hope to get some grading gratis from Granite. Go Granite!</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">AND THEN, we&#8217;ll rent a roller (another $200-300) to pack it all down to keep us going for another season or two.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I didn&#8217;t take any pictures today, but if I did, they&#8217;d be of </div><div class="gmail_default">bringing we a Den Special from the Wildcat, </div><div class="gmail_default">filling in potholes with Joe, </div><div class="gmail_default">analyzing the physics of flow dynamics as relates to the introduction of water to the side or middle of Llano Rod by Coyote Road, </div><div class="gmail_default">the muddy material from Red River after the rain last night, </div><div class="gmail_default">filling in the deep holes with big rocks, </div><div class="gmail_default">digging out giant rocks with an iron bar, </div><div class="gmail_default">greeting motorists on the road, </div><div class="gmail_default">getting a few more addresses for this email list, and </div><div class="gmail_default">riding on the back of Joe&#8217;s 4-wheeler.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I&#8217;ll definitely get pictures tomorrow&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">We&#8217;re still accepting donations for </div><div class="gmail_default">more material</div><div class="gmail_default">fuel</div><div class="gmail_default">equipment rentals and</div><div class="gmail_default">unexpected expenses</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Thanks to all,</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Dan</div>								</div>
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		<title>Friday, October 25, 2025</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too tired to post yesterday. Many issues are coming up&#8230; Will it be enough material? How much water can be directed away from the road? Can we please all of the people all of the time? Just delivering the loads caused damage to the Coyote Road&#8217;s new approach work. Of course, as it is right [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<p>Too tired to post yesterday.</p><p>Many issues are coming up&#8230;</p><p>Will it be enough material?</p><p>How much water can be directed away from the road?</p><p>Can we please all of the people all of the time?</p><p>Just delivering the loads caused damage to the Coyote Road&#8217;s new approach work. Of course, as it is right now, the new approach sends water back to the middle of the road, where it cannot go, no matter what. We&#8217;ll be solving that problem, along with many others today.</p><p>Please be patient. Remember, there are a few steps to our low-budget process:</p><p>Today, Wes will be roughing things out. It&#8217;s a huge job, but let me say, I&#8217;ve heard only great things from all quarters about our skid steer operator, Wes. I totally trust his choices.</p><p>There are many things to consider, but it all comes down to &#8220;water flows downhill.&#8221; We just want it flowing downhill <span style="text-decoration: underline;">away</span> from the middle of the road. </p><p>How hard can that be?</p><p>Anyway, today&#8217;s the day! </p><p>Patience, peace, love and understanding to us all,</p><p>Dan</p><p>PS &#8211; I&#8217;ll be posting pictures <a href="https://pinabete.us/maps-photos/">HERE</a>.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Response to: Road work urgently needed on Refugio Rd, Pinebete</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 1:25 PM Pam  wrote: Hi Dan! I wanted to say hello, introduce myself, and make a request. S and I live on the last road on the lower Llano section called Refugio Rd. It&#8217;s not marked, but it&#8217;s the very last road that will allow you to go up the mountain. S and B [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 1:25 PM Pam  wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Hi Dan! <div>I wanted to say hello, introduce myself, and make a request. </div><div>S and I live on the last road on the lower Llano section called Refugio Rd. </div><div>It&#8217;s not marked, but it&#8217;s the very last road that will allow you to go up the mountain. </div><div>S and B are our neighbors, and we are further up the road from them. </div><div> </div><div>All of which to say, our road has deteriorated to the point where it&#8217;s an issue with safety. I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;ll have access to our house when there&#8217;s another storm.</div><div>We need lots of fill and culvert clearing and proper road grading to make the road safe and usable again. </div><div>I would like to discuss hiring you and your crew to fix our road, and I&#8217;d love to have coffee and discuss this with you and our neighbors. Text if that&#8217;s easier, email works for us. </div><div>Many many thanks, P </div></div></blockquote></div><div> </div><div>/////////</div><div> </div><div class="gmail_default">Hi P &amp; S, </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">(I decided to forward this to everybody on the list, <b>in hopes of getting a few more last minute $$ donations</b>.)</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Sorry &#8211; There&#8217;s no &#8220;crew,&#8221; or if there is one, if you live or own property up here, <b>you&#8217;re on the crew, too.</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Just neighbors trying to get the road fixed. There&#8217;s no one to hire. <b><u>Everybody</u> here has other jobs.</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">We&#8217;re mostly focused on the bottom half mile because that&#8217;s the part everybody has to drive.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I know the roads up at the very top are terrible. Any road that goes straight up the mountain is only going to get worse in time.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Your best chance is to divert water off the road at every chance. That&#8217;s a big part of our plan down below.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Best of luck to you, and to us, because this week is going to happen, not because of any one skilled person, but the determined effort to <b>FIX THE ROAD</b> by everyone.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">If you want to help with the bottom one half mile of the road, <b>please donate now</b>. Each truckload costs about $200.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>We&#8217;d love to buy another 10 loads</b> besides the 13 that we&#8217;re getting now. This will determine the thickness of the road. More better&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">On Thursday and Friday, delivery of material begins. The amount of material we get will determine how good a job we can do.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>$200 is one more load of road material. Help if you can. Donate a load or two, if you can.</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Entact</b> and <b>Granite</b> are generously helping us with some hauling and grading, but they&#8217;re NOT giving us ANY road material. <b>We have to buy it.</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><a href="https://pinabete.us/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://PINABETE.US&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1761175125784000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1BaNiTjxBygr-pN5JHgCn8">PINABETE.US</a> is the website where you can find more info, and a link to the gofundme page, or, better yet, <b>get me a check or cash before Friday.</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">P and S, I&#8217;m sending this email out to our whole email list, not just you, because half way through, I realized I was talking to everybody.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Thanks to everyone involved!</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Dan</div></div>								</div>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 15:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow! 2&#8243; inches in 24 hours! I&#8217;m kind of glad we hadn&#8217;t just finished the road. Especially if we hadn&#8217;t done due diligence on the drainage, bar ditches and crowning and rolling. It would have all ended up at the bottom of the road&#8230; A note about the complaint to Entact. It&#8217;s all cleared up. The complainer [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<div class="gmail_default">Wow! 2&#8243; inches in 24 hours!</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I&#8217;m kind of glad we hadn&#8217;t just finished the road. Especially if we hadn&#8217;t done due diligence on the drainage, bar ditches and crowning and rolling. It would have all ended up at the bottom of the road&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">A note about the complaint to Entact. It&#8217;s all cleared up. The complainer even donated $100&#8230; all&#8217;s well.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">We aren&#8217;t getting as many big donations as we had hoped. If anyone wants to donate more, this would be a good time&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">We want to rent a full-size skid steer and operator for a day, to fill in the big holes and clean out the drainage.  Directing the water off the road as quickly as possible as it rains is the way to go.  </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">The best price we&#8217;ve gotten so far for a full-size skid steer operator and machine is $1500 for 8 hours. The $280/day skid steers at CarQuesta are toys compared to our job.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">THE PLAN is becoming clear, although I&#8217;m not sure where the money will come from. Here&#8217;s what must be done.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><ul><li><b>Finish Entact deliveries (<span style="color: #993300;"><strong>FREE</strong></span>)</b> for lower and upper Llano Road big holes.</li><li><b>Major holes filled</b> in and <b>drainage opened</b> up by <b>skidsteer</b>.</li><li><b>Hard swails </b>at each place where a driveway comes into the road, instead of culverts.</li><li>Map out and <b>create additional drainage</b> away from the road.</li><li><b>Backhoe a water-holding area</b> on unused land for extra runoff.</li><li>THEN we&#8217;re ready for the <b>BIG DAY</b> (or two, but this part has to happen fast)</li><li><b>Belly dumps of material</b>, pit run and/or base coarse from MTC.</li><li><b>Grading by Granite (<span style="color: #993300;">FREE</span>)</b>, same day as MTC deliveries.</li><li><b>Lifting the road</b> as much as we can with the material we can afford.</li><li><b>Creating a crown </b>down the middle of the road to direct water to:</li><li><b>Bar ditches</b> along the sides.</li><li><b>&#8220;Speed bumps&#8221; to divert</b> the water into drainage at intervals.</li><li><b>Roller the finished road</b> and hopefully be ready for winter.</li><li>We may want to <b>roll again in the spring</b>  after freezing has loosened the road.</li></ul></div><div class="gmail_default">It&#8217;s a lot, but that&#8217;s what it takes to do it right, if we&#8217;re to have a chance in the next deluge&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Belly dumps of material from MTC cost approximately $160 &#8211; 210 a load, delivered. </div><p><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline" /><b>Let us know if you&#8217;d like to sponsor a load (or 5) of road material. </b></p><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">If I get time, I&#8217;ll go over all this in detail on the website. It&#8217;s actually pretty interesting, the physics of water wanting to flow downhill vs maintaining a dirt road that goes downhill. It&#8217;s a simple goal, but it gets complicated fast.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">It is a bit easier to work on the road when it&#8217;s slightly moist, so that&#8217;s good&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Let&#8217;s do this!</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Dan</div>								</div>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 12:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello all, Paul and Joe I met on the road this morning. You probably have noticed the some piles of material at the bottom of the road. We got five loads of Red River road washout material delivered by Entact, but someone complained. We’re not sure who it was, or even exactly what they were [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<p>Hello all,</p><p>Paul and Joe I met on the road this morning.</p><p>You probably have noticed the some piles of material at the bottom of the road. We got five loads of Red River road washout material delivered by Entact, but someone complained.</p><p>We’re not sure who it was, or even exactly what they were complaining about, but they complained directly to Entact and threatened litigation, so Entact promptly stopped the project. We were gonna get a few more loads, but not anymore.</p><p>What we’ve got down there is essentially $60 of material(~50 yds), with free delivery, and now we’ve got to get it moved around.</p><p>We’re looking to rent a skid steer to get the material that we’ve got onto the road. It needs a little sorting. There are big rocks in the material, not a lot, but a few big rocks. We’re gonna clean that up and put it in the biggest holes on the lower part.</p><p>We still have our money in the bank, about $2700, with another thousand pledged for sure. We will use the money that we have for quality material from MTC and to rent the machines and operators to get material, grade it(hopefully free from Granite), and roll it.</p><p>We&#8217;ll also be clearing the drainage and reinforcing the meager bar ditches on the side and making places for the water to collect away from the road.</p><p>Once we get everything done and ready and looking good we will bring a roller in to pack it all down and hopefully keep it in place over the winter.</p><p>That’s where we’re at. Right now we’re going to look into skid steer rentals. We’ll get back to you soon.</p><p>Keep an eye on the road.</p><p>Dan</p><p><em>(Entact contacted Joeseph to say they&#8217;ll talk to the complainer and expect to continue deliveries of road material.)</em></p>								</div>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 23:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Happy Harvest Moon! We&#8217;re doing what we can with what we can get&#8230; What we are getting this Thursday is 150 yds of Red River road washout material thanks to a special permit from the US Forest Service, delivered by Entact for free.  Thanks to Joe for talking them into it. Joe and Jaysen have marked some prime trouble spots on Llano Road, both above and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<div class="gmail_default">Happy Harvest Moon!</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">We&#8217;re doing what we can with what we can get&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">What we are getting <b>this Thursday</b> is 150 yds of Red River road washout material thanks to a <b>special permit from the US Forest Service</b>, <b>delivered by Entact for free</b>. </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Thanks to Joe </b>for talking them into it. <b>Joe and Jaysen</b> have marked some prime trouble spots on Llano Road, <b>both above and below</b> the Llano acequia.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>All of that will cost us little or no $$. </b>We will, however, have to pay to get it smoothed out if no local equipment is operational. </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Andamo Sanchez</b> is available with a grader to help move it around. He ain&#8217;t free&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Tomorrow morning (Tuesday), <b>Joe and I will meet with Entact </b>to work out the details of the operation on this Thursday, the 9th.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>This is NOT the big fix </b>we all dream of, but a stop-gap measure to deal with some major problem areas on the road. </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Our budget is very low</b> &#8211; we still have around $5,000. If you can give more, now would be the time to donate&#8230; <b>Some prices below for material from Ortega&#8217;s Gravel and MTC. </b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Entact has offered to help us this Thursday</b>, so look for big trucks on that day. We hope to keep the ball rolling and do whatever we can before Winter sets in. <b>There will be more workdays coming soon&#8230;</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Note</b>: Some of this free material will be going to the upper Llano Road, but we&#8217;ll be spending the real money for material below the Llano ditch.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><b>Here are some numbers (plus tax):</b></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size: xx-large;">Ortega&#8217;s Gravel</span> (does NOT include delivery) (Bobby has no truck at the moment)</div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Base Coarse: $12/yard</strong> (he&#8217;s low on base coarse)</div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Pit Run: $7/yd</strong></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size: xx-large;">MTC</span> (price <u>includes delivery</u> by a belly-dump truck &#8211; nice for spreading it it out over a long area) (15yds per load)</div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Natural Base Coarse: $13.92/ton</strong> (similar to a yard) ($208.80 per truckload, delivered)</div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Pit Run: $10.32/ton</strong> ($154.80 per truckload, delivered)</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">So, ponder all that.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I&#8217;ll post this on the website. If this really happens, I&#8217;ll take some pictures and post them to the website.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_default">Dan</div>								</div>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>​Hi all,</p>
<p>A lot has happened&#8230;</p>
<p>On Friday, Paul, Joe and Dan met on the road with Wes to talk about what&#8217;s happened and what&#8217;s been offered. Wes can operate some light equipment and will see about rentals.</p>
<p>We all agree that we need to bring the material from the sides into the middle of the road and build up a crown to direct the water to the sides and then as much as possible, away from the road into holding areas where the water can slowly soak in.</p>
<p>Paul was talking with two people who are building&nbsp;way up on the road and they offered $500 each. That brings the amount pledged to over $2,000, besides the&nbsp;$2,771.52 in the bank.</p>
<p>Paul has talked with the county some more and it sounds like they won&#8217;t&nbsp;consider maintaining our road until we&#8217;ve brought it up to code ourselves, which is close to impossible. Let&#8217;s keep that on the back burner, and continue reminding the county that emergency&nbsp;vehicles unable to get up here may get them into trouble later on&#8230;</p>
<p>OK &#8211; so, we met on the road. Wes suggests that it would be good to put some water holding spots along the road to direct water off the road as much as possible as it comes down the hill. There are some little&nbsp;ditches&nbsp;running off the road that have&nbsp;filled with sand and road material that can be cleaned out and the material moved back onto the road.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Entact has agreed to deliver the Red River Road washout material (150 yds) for free. The material is from the US Forest Service and hopefully we&#8217;ll get that permit before the government shuts down(?) on Tuesday. The permit cost ($300) will be split by Joe and &#8220;J&#8221;. Thanks!</p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s not enough material to complete the road repairs. In fact, some of that material will go on the north/south part of Llano Road, where there are some huge mud puddles.</p>
<p>While we were talking on the road, a friend of Wes&#8217;s, Antonio, drove&nbsp;up and talked with us in&nbsp;front of&nbsp;his&nbsp;house. He&#8217;s very interested&nbsp;in helping and is licensed to operate heavy machinery, like a backhoe, to move the dirt around and dig water-holding areas. Antonio owns property on both sides of the road and will let us drain water into some areas. Paul and Dan, too, have places that can hold water.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be staking out areas along the road where we can store road material as we begin to make repairs.&nbsp;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve come a long way, and we&#8217;re getting much-needed help, but we&#8217;ll be spending a lot of money for more material, from MTC and/or Ortega&#8217;s Gravel, and for renting machines and operators to do the final top dressing of the base coarse&nbsp;material, to grade it and roll it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of interest in creating &#8220;speed bumps&#8221; at the places where we&#8217;ll be directing water off the road. Less water, less damage&#8230; More speed bumps, fewer hot rods&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, at the places where roads and driveways enter Llano Road, in lieu of culverts, we want to create hard rocky swails where water can pass over without eroding the approaches further, keeping the water on the sides of the road.</p>
<p>As more people become interested, and as this is, of necessity, becoming a DIY project, I wonder if we should consider hiring a &#8220;road man,&#8221; an expert to coordinate our repairs for the best result. Can anyone suggest somebody?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll do as much as we can with what we can scrape together. We&#8217;re now over $5,000 in pledged money, and almost ready to begin&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post this at&nbsp;https://pinabete.us.</p>
<p>Have I left anything out? Suggestions?&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thanks to all,</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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<p><strong>Roger</strong> says: <strong>Amellio Quintana</strong> came highly highly recommended to us and will be looking at the end of Coyote Rd for us.</p>
<p><strong>Jan</strong> says: Sounds like great progress, Dan! If we were here longer, we could offer some manual labor at least, but unfortunately, we can’t make that happen. We appreciate your time and effort and everyone else that is helping out. It’s like a little piece of heaven up here!</p></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 21:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I, being a resident on llano rd, would love to see the road fixed.]]></description>
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									<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Here&#8217;s a plan that came in this morning from Paul:</strong></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">Llano Road Improvements steps forward:</span></em><br /><em><span style="font-size: large;"><br />1. Get recommendations from local road builders on what needs to be done:<br /></span></em></div></div></div><blockquote><div><div><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">A)  based on stages of work based on minimal budget</span></em></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p><em>i.e. what can we get for $5000 for 1st step</em></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><div><div><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">B)  contact the county Road Department for any requirements that are needed to keep the road compliant with county specifications </span></em></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">C)  Check the county Road Department on how to get the county to maintain Llano Rd.</span></em></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;"><br />2. Contact the local commissioner to support getting the county to maintain Llano Rd.<br /></span></em></div></div></div><blockquote><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">A) numbers make a difference; get as many Pinabete land owners to sign a petition requesting county to maintain Llano Rd</span></em></div></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">1. create a mail list of property owners</span></em></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><p><em><span style="font-size: large;">        2.  create petition mailer with return</span></em></p></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><div><div><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">3.  mail and follow up for signatures</span></em></div></div></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><div><div><div class="gmail_default"><em><span style="font-size: large;">B) bring petition signed by land owners requesting county road     maintenance to county Commissioner and Road Department</span></em></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default">What do you think? Do you want to take any of this on personally?</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Wesly Chapman at the bottom of the road offers his expertise:</strong></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><i>I, being a resident on llano rd, would love to see the road fixed. I have many years experience running heavy equipment and will donate my “free time” (mostly weekends) operating equipment and fixing the road if we can get material and equipment<br /></i></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Here&#8217;s a different concern that came in anonymously through the website:</strong></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><i> I don’t know if this area needs to be gentrified anymore. I love living here but I was pushed out of renting in Taos after years from the crazy rental prices. yeah it can be rough on my vehicles getting around but the last thing we need for this neighborhood is for it to be so accessible that out of towners gobble up all the properties from afar and all the hardworking folks of Questa get priced out of here too.</i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i> </i></div><div class="gmail_default">I don&#8217;t think that fixing the bottom half mile is going to lead to gentrification, but I&#8217;m putting everybody&#8217;s thoughts out there for your comments.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I&#8217;ll post all this on the website later. I need to go hunt and gather.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><strong>Also, I&#8217;m going to talk to Bobby Ortega at the Ortega Gravel Pit, to see if he can give us a deal, and if Entact can really deliver material for free&#8230;</strong></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Thanks to all,</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Dan</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div></div></div>								</div>
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									<div class="gmail_default">Hi all,</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I want to catch everyone up on the road repair progress.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">The latest is that MAYBE we&#8217;ll be getting some work done on the road on the last weekend in September, the 27th and 28th.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Joe Cruz has taken some initiative in contacting the Forest Service about getting a permit for material. After some back and forth, they&#8217;ll give us a special permit for 150 yards of material from Highway 68 between Questa and Red River where heavy rain regularly covers the road. </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Carson Natl Forest permit $2/yd x 150 yds = $300</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">To get the material to our road and grade it, Joe has engaged a local contractor, who will do the job for $3,200.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">That&#8217;s a total of $3,500. The road bank account is currently at $2,671.52, so we&#8217;re a little short. If you&#8217;d like to put in money, or more money if you&#8217;ve already given, please do.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Caveat &#8211; We need to notify the Dept of Transportation before we can collect the material from next to the highway, and our contractor is only available over the weekend, and DOT may not want us doing this on a non-business day&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">//////////////</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">On another front, Paul Mooney has been looking into the possibility of getting Llano Road turned into a county-maintained road.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Recent text from Paul:</div><div class="gmail_default"><i> </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>&#8220;Got a reply from Rudy Perea which I will forward to you.</i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>I&#8217;m still waiting on my attorney contact to get us some documentation.<br />Once I get something on paper I&#8217;ll pass it on to my neighbor who is friends with our local commissioner.&#8221;</i></div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Here&#8217;s the reply from Rudy Perea to Paul&#8217;s email:</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"><p><i>&#8220;Good Afternoon Paul,</i></p><p>My apologies for the late response to your e-mail. In order for you to<br />get Taos County to maintain your road I would recommend that you<br />do the following:</p><p>Talk to your County Commissioner to let them know that you<br />want the county to maintain your road.</p><p>Talk to the Taos County Road Department Director to see what<br />process you have to follow to petition the county for road maintenance.<br />You can contact this person at (575) 737-6470.</p><p>If you have any additional questions please let me know.</p><p>Best Regards,</p><p>Rudy D. Perea<br />Chief Planner<br />Taos County Planning Department&#8221;</p></div><div class="gmail_default"><i> </i></div><div class="gmail_default">///////////////////</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">TALKTALKTALK&#8230;</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Roger has been talking about writing a petition and counting cars on the road.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">I&#8217;ve been talking about making a sign for the road, or a flyer for the post office to get more residents involved.</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">/////////////////</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Finally, another front may have opened up:</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Sharon at the library mentioned that they now have a grant writer on staff, and there may be a way to put our plight into a grant request&#8230; Who knows?</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">//////////////////</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Now I&#8217;m tired of writing. Share your thoughts.  </div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default">Dan</div>								</div>
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